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KyoyaP90x Featured By Owner Edited Apr 1, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Agreed. I'm tired of people who have great skills in art, but force their watchers/followers to unwatch/unfollow them for not conforming to their opinions, beliefs, kintypes, and whatnot. I even made a rant about it here.

I get if it's to keep away pedophiles, lgbtqaphobes, Sharia supporters, fantards and the like but if it escalates as to telling people to unwatch/unfollow them for, supporting an artist the byf list maker hates, drawing nsfw (even in their teens), shipping a ship they don't like, or not agreeing with any of their opinions that's where I draw the line and see them as nothing but ignorant fools.

And you know whats just as stupid? People who tell others to follow them if they fit a certain criteria. Fuck that, we don't need to ask in order to follow them.
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the-little-seagull Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree.

I don't want to be told NOT to follow if I'm kin with an certain character because it makes them "uncomfortable" 
There's byf lists where they tell you if you like a certain franchise then they tell people not to follow if they like said franchise.
*Cough*Mogeko*cough*

Yeah! Ask to follow is no better than Do not follow!
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peculiarjotaro7 Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Especially if they're about kintypes .-.

imo kins shouldn't be a problem in the first place
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the-little-seagull Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
it shouldn't matter if someone is against kin related or not they are still people 
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peculiarjotaro7 Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
True
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Venelebat Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
What is that even?!
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kisekae2 Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
why don't you support them..? i understand not listening to them/thinking they're pointless but saying you don't support it is kinda silly.. they're usually just meant to keep people safe, and while i don't usually read them as they can get pretty long and pointless, they still serve a point..
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the-little-seagull Featured By Owner Edited Feb 10, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
the internet is not a safe space and accounts are not safe spaces either so no i dont support them most of the time
its not silly it's reasonable i geuss??

i can only understand byf lists that are like "don't follow me if you are a pedophile, homophobic, rapist etc;" but the ones with bs reasons like a opinion or something? no that i dont support.
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kisekae2 Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
the internet isnt a safe place but if someone is uncomfortable with certain people following them then why would you hate them for that

what opinions r u talking about because theres some that r like 'dfi u dislike dogs' which is dumb but 'dfi if u like (character)' could be reasonable if the character reminds them of an abuser or something... 
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the-little-seagull Featured By Owner Edited Feb 10, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
okay i would understand if it was "do not follow if you think rape is okay" but not a fictional character
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kisekae2 Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
*shrug* 
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That-Cheeky-Bastard Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
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MasterPlanner Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017  Professional Artisan Crafter
That sort of thing makes me want to follow them out of spite, like what are they going to do about it?
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LaSasha Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
agree completely 
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gaystamps Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017
ppl just want a safe space (its their account and they can control it how they like) for their account it's not hard to abide by what they're saying
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the-little-seagull Featured By Owner Edited Feb 4, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"safe spaces" don't prepare for the real world
people shouldn't be forced to unfollow an artist that they like
but okay

i honesty get people if they do not want homophobes, pedophiles, etc; but i don't get it at all if they do not want people who simply have a opinion against neopronouns, otherkin, fictionkin, systems and supporting a ship
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gaystamps Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017
It's their account, they can do what they want. And honestly, people in the 'real word', don't use """safe spaces""" unless it's actually a traumatic topic that causes extreme distress to that person that they are unable to talk or be apart of that, I've been apart of classes that talk about sexual abuse and rape, and due to my own trauma, I was unable to continue it due to the sensitive topic to myself, It was my decision to excuse myself from that lesson, because it harmed my mental health (Along with that, my therapist often said that I should excuse myself from discussions that cause me to relapse and have extreme stress). That's their entire choice with what they do, in the end, it's their account, they can control it.

Again, it all deals with what type of space they want. A lot of people want a positive space for themselves, and a lot of people feel extremely uncomfortable or upset (especially when they, themselves are those things), and they have a right to say what they want. It can seriously harm and effect someone. You can't just exclude all things, if someone doesn't feel comfortable with someone shipping abusive/incestuous/rape ships, and don't want people following bc of that, they have that right.  You can't just say "I understand these things", but then say "Not these things", bc again, everyone has a specific reason that pertains to them that allows them to feel happy and comfortable/
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the-little-seagull Featured By Owner Edited Feb 8, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The internet isn't a safe space and it NEVER will be.

But I do get what you are saying though 
Yeah I hate how schools sometimes talk about HORRIBLE traumatizing things in classes
I remember being grossed out in health class once this year. It wasn't about rape at least but it was something else.

Safe spaces censor free speech and that's why I'm probably so confusing about this topic.
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KazeliKoshka138 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017  Student General Artist
I have seen the dumbest BYF lists ever. Like "don't follow me if you are above 18" or "don't follow me if you don't support [insert ship here]"
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OXlDIZER Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017
Most of these lists are unbelievably ridiculous.
Especially when they have shit displayed like "don't follow if you're straight/white/male" or "don't follow if you don't support [insert a random made up sexuality here]"
Do these people really think that their lists prevent other people who actually belong into one of the "don't follow if-" categories from following/watching them?
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ChametzKiwi Featured By Owner Edited Jan 29, 2017
what are BYW and BFY lists?
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the-little-seagull Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
They all stand for
Before you follow
and 
Before you watch
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starli-i Featured By Owner Edited Jan 28, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
    same >> 
    i find them really annoying OTL
    cause like... how does what your follow posts
    or believes affect you AT ALL?
    i never understood that at all-
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LuciferianQueen Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2017  Student Digital Artist
?
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the-little-seagull Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
BYW stands for before you watch me and BYF stands for before you follow me
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LuciferianQueen Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2017  Student Digital Artist
I know....I hate that too!
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